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SS> Please inform this ignorant Anglais... How in your opinion, your personal SS> opinion, are they a distinct and unique society? M> M> Language alone is Unique enough for them to qualify... Well, let's put it another way... *IF* we must classify Quebec as a distinct and unique
M> yes but i am speaking truth...they have no clue what is going on..yet speak M> anyways..with Quite in my mind Hick remarks... SS> SS> It may well be so... but it doesn't mean you have to reply... M> M> am i supposed to sit there and watch them insult and speak of what they kno
M> they are all also on the NO side..with slight differences in How Parizeau M> should go about his business..but i'll be in Montreal New Years..and i'll se M> first hand the situation there...from alot of my relatives as well... So, out of simple curiousity... Were you born in
SS> would have contacted head office and lodged a formal complaint. People SS> working in a burger are expected to be polite to everyone whether they are SS> French, Chinese, German speaking tourists - who knows. the person should ha SS> been fired and you should have gotten invo
SS> hehe... I think we're usually in agreement about Most things more often tha SS> not... &-) S> S> Thank god.. I would have some pretty sore fingers otherwise... Yeah well... you are usually the cause of me spending hours on this thing typing away... missing my favourite TV pr
SS> Yeah well... you are usually the cause of me spending hours on this thing SS> typing away... missing my favourite TV programs... losing my sleep... havin SS> no time to BBS or anything else :) You and your 'cutting edge' debating SS> questions to get everyone all worked up...
R> Shouldn't all the seperatists be dragged out into the street and shot? M> M> not necessarily...i'm TOTALLY on the NO side...but the Yes have a M> point...anyone who wants to argue it BRING IT ON!!! i'm in the debating M> mood!!! T> I VOTE YES. This way we will never have to li
T> Fucking crock of SHIT. They get better treatment then other provinces, the T> industires are protected (like dairy) they MADE us put in french as a T> second official language, we MUST have french/english stuff just incase T> any quebecers HAPPEN to visit someplace and they on
M> again the southern ontarion hick mentality showing through...If you wanna M> debate back up what your saying T> NO. poitn is quebec is trying to say "WE ARE MORE EQUAL THEN OTHERS" do T> we have chinese as a second language NOOOO, even though there are alot of T> them in canad
T> Neither does that example of drinking qualify, THAT YOU CAN'T change, an T> the referendum would have had NO IMPACT on that, I think he means T> something a little more then just that language thing, you can't force eith T> side to change their language. How have they been tre
M> you were the minority laguage in Canada...would you can change your language M> think not... G> G> finally!.. an intelligent post about quebec!! BRAVO! BRAVO! :) M> M> Thank god i'm not the ONLY non-redneck hick around here :) looks like we'll M> have fun beating them all off
I> I agree... And every year, the seperatists gain more support... I think it i I> inevitable that Quebec will leave Canada, so I think that they should leave I> soon. P> P> There we go.. :) I dunno how much tax $$$ this referendum cost, but it P> was ALOT.. they're not helping t
T> that and quebecers are very bitter towards english speaking people (some of T> the quebecers). P> P> No crap! everywhere you go in ontario someone speaks french or P> understands it most of the time, but Quebec! like No-ONE understands english P> if you goto Montreal about 75%
SS> SS> On the contrary - 99% of French Quebecois DO speak English. Have always spo SS> English. And refuse to speak English and consequently are destroying touri SS> in that province. If they hear you speaking say German amongst yourselves a SS> then you ask them questions in En
SS> Not only that, a separate Quebec is NOT financially viable if they assume SS> their legitimate portion of the national debt. The ONLY WAY they can surviv SS> is to renege on their responsibility and leave the rest of Canada holding t SS> bag, which is exactly what Parizeau in
SS> No, they don;t get equal treatment - they get MORE than equal treatment. An SS> like a child give it an inch it wants a mile! They have more concessions th SS> any other province in Canada. They run their own pension plan, hospital pla SS> immigration, they collect their own
M> where the hell are you getting this? thin air?...i was saying that there IS M> people who will refuse to speak french to a only french speaking person even M> if they speak french...if you seriously don't speak french, no problem...but M> most of the time the person is able to
SS> Put up or shut up... WHAT broken promises etc.etc. etc. pray tell? What SS> problems other than those of their own creation? M> M> problems from English Relations...Problems with Unfair Gov't, Problems with M> not being heard seeing as they are a minority, want any more? SS>
SS> There are many countries in the world where the populations are quite evenl SS> divided as to original language, but very few actual bi-lingual countries SS> where the other languages are recognized officially. Most countries prefer SS> unity. Speaking of that Doesn't switzer
SS> The trouble wth the French Canadian in general is that they suffer from a SS> massive inferiority complex that can only be assuaged by assuming these SS> ridiculous arrogant postures and demanding better than everyone else status M> M> your obviously one of the uneducated you
SS> I have seen it happen. I have tried to get a phone number and had some SS> ignorant bitch refuse to answer in English... etc. So am I then to assume t SS> you are a 'wronged' French Canadian Molson? Or that your parents are? SS> SS> If that is the case I have just one very si
SS> There are many countries in the world where the populations are quite evenl SS> divided as to original language, but very few actual bi-lingual countries SS> where the other languages are recognized officially. Most countries prefer SS> unity. M> M> might very well be, it pro
G> the indians have the distinct society status.. why can't the quebecers?? SS> SS> Simple. The North American natives ARE a distinct society. The Quebecois ar SS> not. your right.. 7 million people who speak french in a country of 30 million english speaking people.. your right
G> i think people are forgetting that there are a LOT of french people in the G> rest of canada.. SS> SS> I don;t think we're forgetting that at all. At least they aren't busy causi SS> problems for the country the way their counterparts in la belle province ar SS> :) Obviously T
G> you and almost everyone else on this net would give them the cold shoulder a G> you are doing it right now.. M> M> except me :) hehe i think we're losing this debate eh? oh well...maybe they' M> re-think there opinions eventually... whatever.. i'm getting tired of all this ar
SS> The French speaking population in Quebec may well end up by getting rid of SS> large number of 'ethnics' who obviously feel under the gun right now, and o SS> course a number of English as well. Unfortunately, with them will go the SS> companies and businesses they have built
SS> Nor do they demand that we use their language in all advertising, governmen SS> documents, nor do they demand that we shave off, say Vancouver Island and c SS> it New Hong Kong! so they can have their own country. M> M> and the English speaking People don't Treat the Asian pe
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 07:11:35·∙·. SS> Please inform this ignorant Anglais... How in your opinion, your personal SS> opinion, are they a distinct and unique society? M> M> Language alone is Unique enough for them to qualify... SS> SS> Well, let's
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 07:12:35·∙·. M> yes but i am speaking truth...they have no clue what is going on..yet speak M> anyways..with Quite in my mind Hick remarks... SS> SS> It may well be so... but it doesn't mean you have to reply... M> M> am i s
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 07:13:47·∙·. M> they are all also on the NO side..with slight differences in How Parizeau M> should go about his business..but i'll be in Montreal New Years..and i'll se M> first hand the situation there...from alot of my re
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 07:14:45·∙·. SS> would have contacted head office and lodged a formal complaint. People SS> working in a burger are expected to be polite to everyone whether they are SS> French, Chinese, German speaking tourists - who knows
T> If you seriously belive that FRENCH would remain a second language you are T> LARGE time mistaken, if quebec had got a yes vote and was leaving, next T> federal election we would see the axing of the second french language as a T> campaign promise. WE ONLY HAVE the damn thing
M> Again...think about what your gonnna say before you say it...and make sure M> what your saying is true...seeing as that wasn't... T> The milk thing i'm not sure of. T> T> But the bitter attitude on both sides towards the other DOES EXIST and your T> fooling yourself. I mean wh
T> Okay, they have their language as a second language, well its equal to T> english. Hmmm I REALLY don't see any difference between how THEY ARE T> TREATED to how I am, or other people i know. The ONLY problem i see is T> them bitching about wanting to retain their language, pro
.·∙Temujin Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 16:50:30·∙·. SS> There are many countries in the world where the populations are quite evenl SS> divided as to original language, but very few actual bi-lingual countries SS> where the other languages are recognized officially. M
.·∙Gus Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 07 Nov 95 16:34:12·∙·. G> you and almost everyone else on this net would give them the cold shoulder a G> you are doing it right now.. M> M> except me :) hehe i think we're losing this debate eh? oh well...maybe they' M> re-think there opinion
G> i think people are forgetting that there are a LOT of french people in the G> rest of canada.. I think people are forgetting the the English and French had a war, and they lost. Yours Truly Grandpa * Origin: +%+ The Tide - 28.8k Node 1 - 1.93Gigs (2662:519/140)
SS> AS I was trying to explain - most of their problems, they bring upon SS> themselves. M> M> well yes...but you have to remeber they WERE provoked to start the whole thi M> from the beginning...so it is all not Totally there own fault.. I wasn't aware of the provocation... How
M> true...but if you take a look..Quebec is the MOST different from anything el M> combined in Canada...There is no other place with such a difference in M> language, etc...then quebec... Well, I don;t agree that language is everything. Far from it. It is simply a means of commu
M> you think Quebec is the only place where people speak french? hahaah think M> not..it WOULD still HAVE to be french as a second laguage...becuase even M> without quebec....french is sTILL the second laguage.. Oh, I think if Quebec went it's merry way, it would be a very short
M> of course theres tension on both sides..i never said there wasn't...i just M> said that alot of it was provoked by the english speaking part.. You keep saying we provoke them... HOW do we/did we provoke them? By giving in to just about everything they've ever demanded? Becau
M> why? the french settlement was PROMISED that they would be able to retain M> there language when taken over...and if you say ONLY native canadians can And they certainly have retqained their language! To the EXCLUSION of English! in that province. It is illegal! for a restaura
M> Spanish is there official second language..so maybe AGAIN you should read M> before you speak.. Spanish is NOT written into their constitution! SPANISH is NOT guaranteed. Like the man said it is just 'There'. And only in those states like Californai and Texas where they have
T> If you seriously belive that FRENCH would remain a second language you are T> LARGE time mistaken, if quebec had got a yes vote and was leaving, next T> federal election we would see the axing of the second french language as a T> campaign promise. WE ONLY HAVE the damn thing
T> Okay, they have their language as a second language, well its equal to T> english. Hmmm I REALLY don't see any difference between how THEY ARE T> TREATED to how I am, or other people i know. The ONLY problem i see is T> them bitching about wanting to retain their language, pro
SS> unity. M> M> might very well be, it probably would have been easier to force english on M> them from the start, and it's WAY to late to do anything now... M> M> Acually the U.S. has 2 official languages...and they seem to do fine...Engli M> and Spanish... T> Spanish is NOT an
M> Spanish is there official second language..so maybe AGAIN you should read M> before you speak.. SS> SS> Spanish is NOT written into their constitution! SPANISH is NOT guaranteed. SS> Like the man said it is just 'There'. And only in those states like Califor SS> and Texas wher
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 08 Nov 95 14:46:55·∙·. SS> AS I was trying to explain - most of their problems, they bring upon SS> themselves. M> M> well yes...but you have to remeber they WERE provoked to start the whole thi M> from the beginning...so it is all no
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 08 Nov 95 14:51:33·∙·. M> true...but if you take a look..Quebec is the MOST different from anything el M> combined in Canada...There is no other place with such a difference in M> language, etc...then quebec... SS> SS> Well, I don;t a
.·∙Silicon Soul Blurted this to Molson `∙·On 08 Nov 95 14:59:52·∙·. M> of course theres tension on both sides..i never said there wasn't...i just M> said that alot of it was provoked by the english speaking part.. SS> SS> You keep saying we provoke them... HOW do we/did we provo